The June 2007Democrat Debate

Ho hum. Nothing new. The Iraq war took up much of the discussion, followed by health care and taxes on the "rich". The one tie-breaking issue, illegal immigration and amnesty, got very little discussion and their response was disappointing--their logic was non-existent; such as, "you can't put 12 million on buses at the point of a gun". As if that were the only way to solve the problem. Take away their jobs and they would move back on their own--maybe at their own expense. Jobs, for the most of them, are what keeps them here so that would seem the logical means of getting rid of them. They don't belong here, they have no legal right to be here.
What is not being mentioned about amnesty is that you have to multiply the numbers by at least three; to cover family members. That means at 12 million you are talking about 36 million immigrants by the time the dust settles.
The solutions, as given by the candidates, were merely "solve the problems by solving the problems, with the means drawn out of the ether. The answers were more or less "safe". I doubt if I vote Democratic this go around; unless the Republicans have a worse showing than the Democrats, which is a possibility--like Guilani talking about "assault pistols.